More Americans are leaving the United States than moving in—for the first time in decades. In this conversation, Bob McCranie sits down with Jen Barnett of Expatsi to break down what’s really happening, and how everyday people—not just the wealthy—are successfully relocating abroad.
We cover the rise of global mobility, why “ordinary folks” are now exploring options like Spain, Germany, and Panama, and how Expatsi helps Americans take real steps toward a safer, healthier, and more stable life overseas.
You’ll learn:
Why net negative migration is happening now
How regular people are retiring or working abroad
What “scouting trips” look like and why they matter
Visa pathways (including student and investor visas)
How tools like Google Translate make the transition easier
What it feels like to live in places with stronger civil protections and less daily stress
We also discuss Move Abroad Con, Expatsi’s major conference that helps people turn interest into action. Bob and Leslie spoke at last year’s event, and the results speak for themselves—many attendees have already made the move.
If you’ve ever wondered, “Could I actually live somewhere else?” — this is your starting point.
Make 2026 Your Year: Move Abroad Con, Live in San Diego
Two days of expert insights, life-changing connections, and the practical roadmap you need to finally make your move abroad. Limited tickets available—secure yours now before they’re gone.
May 9-10, 2026, Hard Rock Hotel, San Diego, California
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